One Podcast to Rule Them All

//One Podcast to Rule Them All

Podcasts are great. You simply download them onto your mobile device, and you can listen to it anywhere – walking around, in your car, at your desk – whatever. This explains their rising popularity in the few short years since introduction. Radio programs have been around for decades, but podcasts are the future. Podcasts affords the unique opportunity to learn from the best minds on the planet, all at your own pace, on your own time. It’s a very empowering medium for change and self improvement. The right information can change the world. The best part? For listeners, it’s completely free. That’s why I’m so excited to share news about a brand new project – The Obesity Code Podcast – focused on evidence based nutrition especially as it applies to weight loss, type 2 diabetes, dietary fat, sugar, metabolic syndrome and fasting. With all the unnecessary suffering caused by the twin epidemics of obesity and type 2 diabetes, it’s time to stand up and make a difference. I hope this podcast will consistently provide useful information about the science of weight loss and nutrition.

I started medical school in 1992 at the age of 19. Obesity was spreading, and the epidemic of type 2 diabetes was gaining momentum. Medical school taught me many things, not all correct. Some important lessons are only learned with experience. One of the things medical school taught me was this: nutrition was not part of the doctor’s lexicon.

As young medical students, we quickly sorted out what was important and what was not, based upon the medical school curriculum. If anatomy and pathology and biochemistry were the subjects being taught and the subjects I was being graded upon, then that’s what I studied and learned. That’s what I thought was important. Nutrition was just barely on the curriculum. So I learned, or inferred, that nutrition was not an important health issue, compared to say, chemotherapy drugs, pharmacology or X-ray interpretation.

After finishing medical school, three years of Internal Medicine residency and another two years of fellowship in nephrology (kidney disease), I started working as a specialist physician. Type 2 diabetes is by far the leading cause of kidney disease. And year after year, the number of patients kept going up and up. There was so much illness, so much suffering and it was getting worse, not better.. And I had a very queer thought. Why? For me, the one question that I always needed to understand was ‘Why’. I am obsessed with understanding the root cause of a disease because without that critical information, you cannot properly treat the disease.

The kidney disease was caused by type 2 diabetes, which in turn was largely related to obesity. So, logically, the solution was not to give more drugs and dialysis, it was to solve the obesity problem.  I had always believed that the rudimentary nutritional knowledge I gained in medical school was sufficient. ‘A calorie is a calorie’, ‘It’s all about calories’, and ‘ Eat Less and Move More’ was the only answers I knew. And they were dead wrong, because the problem was getting worse.

So the crucial, crucial question remained: ‘Why do we gain weight’? If we get the answer here wrong, then everything downstream will be corrupted. If you think the problem is excess caloric intake, then our facile answer, is ‘Eat less calories’. But the exploding supernova of obesity and type 2 diabetes said that this answer was wrong, dead wrong.

A  few experts and doctors looked beyond the facade, to glimpse the new nutrition paradigms evolving over the last few decades. Following the work of these brave thinkers, I realized that obesity is a hormonal, not a caloric imbalance. This changed everything. If I was to be a good doctor, to heal people, to keep them well, I needed to fix this obesity problem which was so misunderstood. Five years ago, Megan Ramos and I started the Intensive Dietary Management program ( to treat patients using only proper nutrition. Our goal was not to prescribe more medication, it was to reduce it. Our goal was not to manage type 2 diabetes, it was to completely reverse it. In 2016 I released two books – The Obesity Code to discuss these principles and The Complete Guide to Fasting, which introduced the use of therapeutic fasting for obesity and type 2 diabetes.

But there is still so much work to do. As I wrote The Obesity Code, I realized there was virtually no easily accessible information discussing the underlying hormonal causes of obesity and type 2 diabetes. Most nutrition advice was just warmed up iterations of the failed ‘Eat Less, Move More’, Caloric Reduction as Primary approach. People needed to understand the disease of obesity and how to treat it.

The result of this effort is a new podcast – The Obesity Code Podcast: Lessons and Stories from the Intensive Dietary Management Program. I joined with veteran podcasters Carl Franklin and Richard Morris from 2KetoDudes and asked the top experts, the brave thinkers, the paradigm shifters from around the world to join me in a single podcast that would have the ability to explain the new nutrition rules.

All are professionals in the sense that health, nutrition and predominantly obesity are what all these experts deal with, day in and day out every day of their professional, and often personal lives. All have spent over a decade (and sometimes multiple decades) in this field. There are doctors, surgeons, researchers, professors, and journalists to give all perspectives. But all agree on one thing – the time has come to shine the bright light of evidence based science upon nutrition. Instead of only having these experts on once every few years, we have access to their deep knowledge week in and week out. I realize this is a new format for most nutrition podcasts, but ultimately, I think it will be more useful to the only person that matters – you, the listener.

These featured experts (in alphabetical order) include:

  • Dr. Peter Brukner (Australia) – Physician, specialist sports medicine, Team Doctor – Australian national cricket team, author
  • Dr. Gary Fettke (Australia) – Physician, specialist in orthopedic surgery
  • Dr. Jason Fung (Canada) – Physician, specialist in nephrology, Author
  • Dr. Zoe Harcombe (United Kingdom) – Obesity researcher, PhD in public health nutrition, Author
  • Dr. David Ludwig (United States) – Physician, specialist in pediatric endocrinology, Professor in Nutrition and Pediatrics (Harvard University), Author, Founder of Optimal Weight for Life program
  • Dr. Aseem Malhotra (United Kingdom) – Physician, specialist in cardiology, Author
  • Professor Tim Noakes (South Africa) – Physician and Researcher sports medicine, Author
  • Megan Ramos (Canada) – Clinical medical research, IDM program director
  • Gary Taubes (United States) – Science and health journalist, Author, co-founder Nutrition Science Initiative
  • Nina Teicholz (United States) – Science and health journalist, Author

In addition to this expert commentary, clients and patients from the IDM will share their stories about weight loss and type 2 diabetes reversal. What’s the ultimate goal of this ambitious project? To remove the sword of Damocles hanging over our world. To prevent this tsunami of obesity of type 2 diabetes that threatens to sweep over humanity. We have only one weapon against this threatened disaster – knowledge. This podcast is a means to disseminate the knowledge necessary to back us off the precipice.

While you may think that this podcast is about the aetiology of obesity, reversal of type 2 diabetes, clinical nutrition and performance athletics, that’s not my vision. Truly, I think that the main theme of this podcast is hope. Hope for those who want to lose weight. Hope for those who have type 2 diabetes. Hope for those with heart disease. Hope for those with Alzheimers disease. Hope for those who have cancer. Hope for those who want to improve their athletic performance. This is a podcast for you, the listeners, not for us. None of us receive money for this. We do not accept any advertising on this podcast. We donate our time, our skill, our knowledge, our proficiency for only one reason. To make the world a better place. The rest is up to you.

You can listen to the pilot episode here on the 2 Keto Dudes podcast –

Episode1 of The Obesity Code Podcast will start (hopefully) October 9th.

2017-09-28T07:35:38+00:00 41 Comments

About the Author:

Dr. Fung is a Toronto based kidney specialist, having graduated from the University of Toronto and finishing his medical specialty at the University of California, Los Angeles in 2001. He is the author of the bestsellers ‘The Obesity Code’ and ‘The Complete Guide to Fasting’. He has pioneered the use of therapeutic fasting for weight loss and type 2 diabetes reversal in his IDM clinic.

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Love you books and articles, but I am NOT a fan of podcasts. I can read 20 times faster than listening to a podcast, and I can save portions of an article so I don’t have to take notes. PLEASE add transcripts to your podcasts.


I completely agree Cindi. I prefer reading – I learn better with it, I can access it over and over again, page by page. Please, Dr. Fung, give us this podcast in an article!!!!

Leaf Eating Carnivore
Leaf Eating Carnivore
I agree with both Cindi and Tessa – and Nola below. I also can read much faster than I can listen, look back quickly to previous info (same reason I like paper books better than ebooks!), and learn more easily and thoroughly, being a highly visual person. And I don’t (and may never) have a portable device (aka a smart phone) with which to listen. Even if I did, I find it distracting merely to listen to music – never mind serious concepts – while trying to do other things like driving, or trying not to vacuum up the cat… Read more »

I agree with what everyone has said, above. *please* provide a transcript for your podcasts! And thank you so much for all you are doing at IDM!


I also prefer reading a transcript to a podcast (I’m a visual learner). A podcast will be out of my memory before it’s finished, lol. It’s so much easier and more accurate referring back to notes if I am quoting for someone else, and I don’t have to rudely plug in if I am in a waiting room or other place where I need to be aurally aware. Thanks, Dr. Fung!


get enounce! You can listen up to 3 times faster! get shit done~


I’ve listened to hundreds of podcasts and this one is by far my favorite. I love the way it is “edited” by the 2KetoDudes with their commentary, your quotes, and the person being interviewed interspersed throughout. Thanks! This is a gift!

Roger Bird
Ah, ah, ah. We found out something about Dr. Fung that he hasn’t told us. He is a genius and/or a child prodigy or both. You can’t start medical school without first getting a bachelors degree, which usually takes 4 years. To start med school at 19 means that you started about 3 years earlier than everyone else or better. He either started college two or three years early or got through college in 2 years or some combination of those accelerated rates. So, combined with his open and inquisitive mind (and great sense of humor), is it any surprise… Read more »

Roger, I know of people who went from High School straight into a PhD program. I used to think one needed a Bachelor’s degree before being admitted into a PhD program. Apparently not.

Michele Wilcox

Hey, what about Dr Eenfeldt? Get him in there or you’ll hurt our feelings here in Sweden, and we can’t have that!


My wife and I listened to the pilot podcast yesterday and it was excellent. Having shed 120 pounds (so far) since Feb. 16th following the guidelines in “The Obesity Code” and “The Complete Guide to Fasting”, but still having 20 or so to go, I have become a believer in the science, and have, with me results, opened the eyes of several doctors recently involved in aspects of my health. We look forward to your podcasts and the success stories that will undoubtedly be included. And we thank you whole heartedly!

Steve Romer

NSV: A1C today was 4.8 down from 10.6 in 2/17!!! Dr Fung and Megan Ramos you saved my Life!!!

Tears in my eyes thanking you.

Roger Bird

A problem with pod casts is illustrated by the (most excellent and important) graph above about dates vs. percentage of diabetics and absolute numbers of diabetics. You can’t see graphs or pictures very well on pod casts. Graphs and pictures are so important to me that I stop videos and carefully look over the graph or picture before the presenter talks about the graph or picture, just to be sure that I am incorporating all of the “1 thousand words” to be garnered from the graph or picture.


Listened to the pilot podcast yesterday. It was exactly what I needed. Listening to your guest’s story was like my own personal counselling session/inspirational pep talk. Thank you Dr Fung and Megan Ramos.
PS to Megan. Whipping cream training wheels have become whipping cream all season tires. You called it!


Wonderful news! Looking forward to listening to the podcast. It does give me hope. Thanks so much.

Ian McCracken

My name is Ian McCracken and I am a medical student at University of Washington School of Medicine. I am one of the leaders of the sports medicine and nutrition interest group. We are a group of medical students interested in this area of medicine, which overlaps well with what Dr. Fung has researched and written about. Is there any way we can reach out to Dr. Fung and he would talk to our group or at least takes steps in that direction?

R Janssens

I like the podcasts. I download them to listen to when I walk or when I’m in the car. I will also play them when I am doing things at home and will put one on to listen to while I’m making dinner etc. I still enjoy the written material as well when I’m ready to sit down and do some reading.


I think this is great and cannot wait to tune in to and be part of this important revolution


OMG, the title of this blog post is spot on XD

Mary H

I enjoyed the pod cast. I learned some valuable information. Please keep them coming!


This is so exciting! Thank you so much for everything you’ve done. It’s made a tremendous difference for myself and multiple members of my family. I’m looking forward to the podcast!

Mary Kay

I am so excited for this new venture as I AM a huge fan of both podcasts and you & Megan. I listen to one each day to keep myself feeling educated and supported. Hope, and the belief I have in my bodies innate ability to heal and stay healthy, has been paramount to my life’s Rocky journey. To see you mention hope (7 times no less) was like hearing angels singing! I just went from fan to super fan. Many thanks to both of you for putting this together.


Yay! Looking forward to it! Thank you so much!!

Staci Williams

I like podcast, thank you for your contributions to diabetes and health.


Hope is the dream of a soul awake, and now, thanks to The Obesity Code Podcast, it becomes the reality of a mind awake. Thanks to all of you healers. (And yes, Dr. Eenfeldt, please!)


I agree with Cindi. Reading is my preferred method of info transfer so timely transcripts are appreciated. Thanks.

Linda Sullivan

I very much enjoyed the podcast, both the format and the music! Congratulations, and thank you for all the work you do to get the word out there Dr Fung and Megan. I am thinking that there needn’t be any complaints at all – it is free!! and we are not part of the production, just the benefactors of excellent information….


I also prefer reading your articles than listening to podcasts. I write from Spain; your blog has been a great help for me and reading is much easier for those who are not native English speakers.


That is awesome Dr Fung. I agreed with you that the earlier podcasts with Jimmy were too goofy to be taken seriously. To many, this is a serious subject not a punch line for yuk yuk comments.

Paula H.

YES! SO glad to hear this. I love to read but have limited time. I can listen to podcasts while driving, doing dishes, folding laundry, etc.

RJ Rahn
I have encountered several of your panel of experts via the Diet Doctor. I look forward to a resolution of my queries that have risen to the surface now that I am in ketosis to reverse my T2D and have re-gained it a few times after exceeding the limits for social reasons. – On the way to ketosis, during an LCHF phase, I lost 15% of my weight and got some reduction in my fasting glucose (varying by +/- 0.6 around 5.8 which my meter says is the threshold for diabetes). -In ketosis, I vary between 0.8 and 1.2 mmol/L… Read more »

Hi there! I’m hoping you’ll publish these podcasts to iTunes? Following the link via your podcast launch blog post almost crashed my computer twice and it won’t play!

robert snider



podcast is 86 megabytes large, does not seemingly have transcripts for those of us who need them or wish to experience them quietly.

Please go back to your lovely articles or perhaps you all can have talks on Youtube with closed captions?


Will your podcast be available in Itunes?


Just read The Obesity Code and am truly fascinated. I’m a Family Medicine physician that has been on the search for a meaningful way to help my patients. Just wondering if Dr. Fung or his colleagues had any commentary on the recent JACC article correlating skipping breakfast and an increased risk of atherosclerotic disease?


he briefly mentioned it at the end of his recent blog post:


Sigh, I refuse to listen to podcasts, partly because of a hearing loss, but mostly because I’m a visual learner… what I hear goes in one ear and out the other with no pause in between. But written words can be read multiple times very quickly, faster than listening to them. Hope you will also include transcripts!

Leigh Ann

Podcast was fabulous – need more quickly! loved the format of learning about your 1st guest.


I’m not a huge fan of this new podcast format. The content itself is good, but it’s presented in highly edited sound bites with narration by Carl Franklin. This quickly gets annoying. Actual conversations are so much better.

Echo Chamber

“There are doctors, surgeons, researchers, professors, and journalists to give all perspectives.”

All perspectives, as long as it is the low-carb perspective.