Clive – Patient Profile

I have been corresponding with a reader, Clive over these past few months, and he has been kind enough to allow us to share his testimonial. Here’s his story:

Clive and Sandra: We have been in awe watching and listening to your lectures on obesity and diabetes. My husband was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes 7 yrs ago, and although he is not on medication, we, like most people thought it was a permanent disease and he would only get worse, how wrong we were! With your inspiration we started a low carb diet only 5 weeks ago and have been amazed at losing over a stone each, but the interesting thing is that his cholesterol has dropped to 4. 7. Triglycerides 0. 8. HDL 1.7. LDL 2. 6. and is no longer obese, we now feel more confident to carry on this good work and maybe one day come off our blood pressure tablets.
We want to say a Big Thank You to you for all the information you have given out to everyone, and we think you are truly amazing and so interesting to listen to. Thank you once again. – Dec 10, 2015

Dear Dr. Fung, We felt that we had to write and thank you for all the information and advice you have available on the web for curing type 2 diabetes.  Since finding your website a year ago we have been following all the advice and information on there, 2 weeks ago he went for the annual diabetic eye screening check up and told the technician he was reversing his diabetes but the technician said he had never heard of it and the only way would be to have a liver transplant!! I must say my husband came away very deflated, anyway he has just got the blood results back from his doctor and guess what, he’s not diabetic anymore!!!! Thank you once again because we feel it’s all because of you and the information you put out. Happy New Year! Best wishes Clive and Sandra. – Dec 27, 2015

Dear Dr Fung. We successfully reversed type 2 diabetes by watching and listening to you. How amazing you are! We have come across so many disbelievers along our journey, especially from the medical profession. Clive went to the dentist today for his usual check-up and was asked, ‘any health changes’ He told them he was no longer diabetic. This received a puzzled look and a question, ‘Oh! how did you do that?’ Clive has told her all about you and how amazing you are! It’s strange how these people react. We are spreading the word! Thank you once again for all you have done for us. Best wishes and Happy New Year. Clive and Sandra. — Jan 11, 2016

 

We write this letter to you with many thanks and in appreciation of all the information and advice you have put out on the web on how to reverse type 2 diabetes. My husband Clive who is 74 was diagnosed with type two diabetes 7 years ago and although we had been controlling it with diet we were told by the Dr that he would have to go onto medication eventually! We feel very lucky indeed to have found you Dr Fung and been in awe watching and listening to your lectures and that is when we decided to do a paleo diet and cut out all sugar, process food ,rice,pasta,bread and potatoes and “fast” one day a week, well Clive has lost nearly 3 stone in weight,he is now 14 stone and feels very well. We were very enthusiastic about it but came up against many disbelievers especially the medical profession and when Clive had his yearly diabetic eye screening check up a few weeks ago he told the technician he was reversing his diabetics but was told by the technician he had never heard of anyone being able to do this. Now guess what?! He is is no longer diabetic! We are going to carry on eating healthy and have also changed to grass fed meat which healthier. Although his doctor has not said that there is anything wrong his serum urea level is 8.8mmo1/l
If anyone reading this has diabetes or knows someone that has it, please take the time and do the research as Clive and I have, it really has changed our life’s for the better! Do not let the medical profession knock your confidence you really can take control of your own health! – Jan 11, 2016

Dr. Jason Fung: Absolutely amazing, Clive! This is typical of the medical establishment. Doctors, dieticians, diabetic educators and generally everybody interested knows that Type 2 Diabetes (T2D) is a dietary disease. If you can lose the weight, then the T2D wil go away. Everybody agrees with that. So, it is clear that T2D is a fully reversible disease. But a dietary disease requires a dietary solution.

This is where the breakdown occurs. Doctors treat this dietary disease with lots of drugs, and then watch as the patient continues to worsen. This is driven by the big pharmaceuticals and big food companies who sponsor lots of research into drugs and really don’t want people to get better. They give prominent doctors lots of money to speak to other doctors. They send them on fancy trips all over the world. Unfortunately, they have corrupted the academic doctors who write national guidelines. This leads doctors to tell The Biggest Lie. The lie is that T2D is chronic and progressive. You’ve got it, get used to it!

But this is not simply a lie they tell you. This is a lie they tell themselves. Doctors watch patients get worse year after year on medications. Taking more and more drugs to keep sugars down. So, either they admit that they are giving the complete wrong treatment (drugs for a dietary disease), or they lie to themselves that the disease is itself progressive. Psychologically, they cannot admit to themselves that they are not only bad doctors, but allowed Big Pharma to buy them off. They are shills for the drug giants, and not the healers they thought themselves.

No, they cannot do that. The psychological damage is too great. Instead, they institutionalize the lie that T2D is progressive and they are doing the best they can. They lie to themselves that they are working with Big Pharma to find a cure. Now, they can believe themselves to be the noble healer facing this deadly onslaught. In truth, they were traitors and turncloaks. They betrayed their patients trust and broke the oath of Hippocrates to first do no harm.

This is all despite the all the evidence in front of their very noses that T2D is fully reversible. Lose the weight, lose the diabetes. Denial is powerful and pervasive, not simply a river in Egypt. If there is only one thing you need to remember, it is this. Type 2 Diabetes is a fully reversible disease. Don’t believe this ghastly lie. That is the first step to reclaiming your health.

2017-10-27T18:25:39+00:0045 Comments

About the Author:

Dr. Fung is a Toronto based kidney specialist, having graduated from the University of Toronto and finishing his medical specialty at the University of California, Los Angeles in 2001. He is the author of the bestsellers ‘The Obesity Code’ and ‘The Complete Guide to Fasting’. He has pioneered the use of therapeutic fasting for weight loss and type 2 diabetes reversal in his IDM clinic.

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Sylvain M

Hi Dr. Fung!
This sounds like that instead of being caught in the CRaP approach and or the CICO approach, we are more caught by the Big Pharma Return On Investment as Primary (BP-ROIaP). Big fight ahead on your side!
Thank you!
Sylvain M

Joand Day
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Joand Day

you are one amazing Dr. [and person]The kind I respect and trust . Thank you for sharing your information with the world–

Janknitz
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Janknitz

“If you can lose the weight, then the T2D wil go away. Everybody agrees with that. ” I guess I’m not everybody, because I don’t agree. Does obesity cause diabetes, or is obesity a symptom of the same mechanism that causes diabetes? My personal experience suggests that insulin resistance comes FIRST and both obesity and diabetes are downstream consequences of insulin resistance. And from what I understand, insulin resistance is multi-factorial–not just poor diet, but also genetics, environment, stress . . . Example: I have a 15 year old daughter. She has acanthosis nigricans, high insulin, high fasting blood glucose… Read more »

BobM
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BobM

It’s difficult to determine cause and effect, but I also think that high intakes of carbs cause high insulin and insulin resistance (which is a term I’m not quite sure I know the meaning of*), which lead to all sorts of ill effects. I think low carb works very well for some people. For me, it worked for about 25 pounds, then I plateaued. I started intermittent fasting (and increased my fat content) and that’s allowed me to lose 25+ more pounds. *Concerning “insulin resistance”, Gary Taubes appeared to define this on a cellular level. His theory was that we… Read more »

BobM
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BobM

Oh yeah: about curing the underlying metabolic disruption, I think in many instances, insulin resistance IS the underlying metabolic disruption. Intermittent fasting appears to help with that, at least it has for me (my blood markers of insulin resistance have improved, although I haven’t gotten a “gold standard” test, as I can’t find where I can get one done).

PCOS is of course, different.

Anna
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Anna

I have BMI of 18, have type 2 diabetes, and follow low carb diet. With an a1c of 4.8 and no complications, I can say I have successfully reversed diabetes. Obesity did not cause my diabetes, and I did not have to lose any weight to reverse it. Just minimize carbs in the diet. If I resume the carbs, the diabetes will return. So I do not believe it is simply a matter of losing weight.

CK Leong
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CK Leong

I would be delighted to learn and apply any practical suggestions which will help me to manage or reverse my Type 2 diabetes. As at 2016 Feb 01, my weight is 142 pounds, 5 ft 9 inches tall, which results in a BMI of 21, fat percentage of 14.9. I have been diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes for about 5 years. My most recent a1c is 7.2. I exercise 4 to 5 times a week. I take one 500 mg of Metformin with breakfast, one 100 mg of Januvia (Sitagliptin) with lunch, and one 500 mg of Metformin (was prescribed… Read more »

Anna
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Anna

I suggest that you join the Facebook group “Reversing Diabetes”. You will find all the information and low carb meal plans there. If you are not on Facebook, check this page by another doctor with whom Dr. Fung has collaborated. http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf#advice

sten Bjorsell
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sten Bjorsell

A slim longstanding friend of mine got a heart attack and a stent a few years ago. His system did not agree with the medication and 3 years later he read about the 5-2 diet, and started the intermittent fasting two days per week. A year later his doctor could take him off his last medication as all his blood works had gone from “heart patient” to perfect. Later on he found out that he had not done the 5-2 as described, as he missed (the illogical) that he could eat 700 calories every “fasting” day. As a result he… Read more »

Berit
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Berit

Me, too! I had insulin resistance way before gaining my weight. I was diagnosed with insulin resistance and PCOS in my early twenties (in now 44), almost 25+ kilos ago.

I would love to see some proper Research into the relationship between PCOS, metabolism, insulin resistance and T2D.

Any thoughts, Dr. Fung?

Berit
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Berit

By the way; I’m on 3×500 mg Metformin and Victoza, no insulin.

Ali
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Ali

The cause may well be multifactorial. Yes, the Western diet has a lot to answer for – when the most staple foods, wheat, sugar and dairy are stripped of most or all of the nutrients that would help us digest them, or are denatured in some way and are no longer complete, they become very damaging. But we are also exposed to drugs like gut biome-disrupting antibiotics (given to cattle to fatten them), the contraceptive pill, and other hormone-disrupting medications. The IR undoubtedly comes before the obesity, but removing the damaging foods can make a huge difference. Fasting will definitely… Read more »

Wenchypoo
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Wenchypoo

I have seen many people “get religion” when they are diagnosed as pre-diabetics or early type II’s. They follow a high carb, low fat plan and lose weight initially. But then they gain it back, plus more. And they never quite get rid of their diabetes even if they temporarily reach their goal weight. I know even some thin people with Type II diabetes. Weight loss with metabolic improvement may reverse diabetes, but I’m not sure that weight loss without correction of the underlying metabolic disruption will do anything. This is why there are no reunion shows of Big Brother–no… Read more »

Samuel
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Samuel

I am coming to the conclusion that the biggest lie of the 20th century, carried unabated into the 21st century is that the government/pharmaceutical industry wants to decrease the cost of healthcare. For the government the cost is for the taxpayer, and for big pharma it is the patient that pays, and pays, and pays…. There will never be any significant amount of research to validate any of this because it is free. You are stuck with anecdotal evidence such as this testimonial, and basically going out and experimenting on your own. It is either take charge of your own… Read more »

Spencer
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Spencer

Good job Clide and Sandra! You are wise to follow Dr. Fung’s advice because it is firmly rooted in good science. As a medical resident, I am beginning to feel the ‘burn out’ that is all too common for those in the medical profession. Although long work hours certainly play a role in physician burn out, I believe (at least in my case) that much of it has to do with that gut wrenching feeling that our drugs just might be the problem, not the solution. In other words, swallowing the big lie is not only very damaging to patients… Read more »

Marge B
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Marge B

My Primary Care Dr. noted on my chart, after Lab results, that I no longer required Metformin.
I have talked to and emailed 3 gal-pals, who are Insulane Resistant and Obese, Dr. Fung’s videos; so they can understand the benefits of Low Carb diet, Interminent Fasting and the truth about T2D.
BLEH…they see my weight loss, renewed energy and yet make no changes. They continue to eat Junk Food, bread, pastries, pasta, sugar laden Starbucks coffee. They remind me of zombies who can not-will not…help themselves.

MLC
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MLC

Everyone’s journey is their own. Congrats on your success & new outlook on life. It is amazing, and be confident you are planting seeds. When your friends are ready, they will hear/see what you are saying and begin their own path. A gentle reminder that sugar & carbs are an addiction and one that is reinforced on every street corner & tv commercial. It took me years to finally stop resisting the LC message. Now that I have, I’m sorry I didn’t listen to people like you years ago, but I wasn’t ready to hear it then…..

Julie from ON
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Julie from ON

WTG Clive!!! Good on you for finding what works for you. Keep on doing what you’re doing and don’t listen to the nay sayers. Thank you Dr. Fung for your videos and your blog (can’t wait for your book). Thanks to doctors like you I’ve lost 30 pounds and kept it off. Next step is to go to a full day fast once a week.

John C
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John C

Congratulations Clive and well done! It is obvious that, like me, you had the support and encouragement of a wife to keep you on the path to recovery. The lesson I take from your experience, and mine, is that we must take responsibility for our own healthcare, do our own research, and demand explanations from our healthcare providers. Dr Fung’s blog and Megan Ramos’ long range IDM program have enabled me to maintain the reversal of my type two diabetes. I think that I would be foolish to think I can decide my own treatment without professional advice from doctors,… Read more »

Brad
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Brad

I was diagnosed type 2 several years ago, got undiagnosed as I brought my a1c down around 5.5 with diet and exercise, but then forgot about it, had a lot of stress, and eventually when I went back to the doc. I had a1c 16.1 and fasting glucose 20.2. So at 60 I went back on control mode, did my homework and am really grateful for the helpful evidence based advice and giving caring attitude of Jason Fung, and Diet Doctor. I need the advice to get my program working and refine it for my situation. So next blood test… Read more »

Dr.S. Vijayaraghavan
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Dr.S. Vijayaraghavan

Dear Dr Jason As a primary care physician I have been advocating the dietary approach to type 2 DM since almost 2 years. It is an uphill task and a challenging one at that. Probably 10 % of the diabetics for whom I conduct awareness program, are convinced about this idea. However, those that have been, and adhered to, have completely reversed. As a medical doctor I feel, for the first time in my professional career I have done something meaningful for those who have had no hope. Nothing ( no amount of money) con possibly match the satisfaction when… Read more »

Deb Griffith
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Deb Griffith

Another outstanding story, Dr. Fung, and, as usual, inspirational to keep me motivated during losing my final 15 lbs! (Never, EVER, thought I’d see the day!) Here at work we have an older man (late 50’s) who is extremely diabetic. He has an implanted insulin PUMP, has had all the toes removed on one foot, and has a belly that looks like a very painful overinflated basketball. All day long we watch him eat fast food, chocolates, cupcakes, candy, drink sodas, etc. It is disgusting! The first few days he worked here, I asked him what the heck he thought… Read more »

Jerome Benthamite
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I am sending a copy of your blog in a word document with links to several friends who are in need of your insights. I love the work you have done. You could say more about Bad Pharma (title of a book by Prof. Ben Goldacre). I thoroughly understand your anger over the abrogation of duty by doctors as to looking out for patients . What you have under covered with diet and type-2 diabetes is an example of the working mode generated by pharma for its fiduciary ends. I have a website started in 2004 on health issues, and… Read more »

Jerome Benthamite
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Thin people diagnosed with type-2 diabetes. Wrong diagnosis. I notice that Janknitz ande Anna in the blog above described being diagnosed with T2D, yet aren’t obese. A likely reason is that they have been misdiagnosed. It is estimated that more than 50% of persons diagnosed as having non-obesity-related type 2 diabetes may actually have LADA. Glutamic acid decarboxylase autoantibody (GADA), islet cell autoantibody (ICA), insulinoma-associated (IA-2) autoantibody, and zinc transporter autoantibody (ZnT8) testing should be performed on all adults who are not obese who are diagnosed with diabetes.[4] Not all people having LADA are thin or skinny, however—there are overweight… Read more »

Anna
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Anna

Thank you for your concern. However, I requested and received antibody testing. I do not have LADA.

Janknitz
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Janknitz

I am not diabetic (officially) nor is my very thin daughter, but we are both highly insulin resistant. This is not LADA. I am quite certain we have a genetic form of insulin resistant PCOS– I believe my mother had it,too, and she went on to develop full blown type II. I’m hoping I and my daughter can avoid that.

sten Bjorsell
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sten Bjorsell

Anna and Janknitz. If you since have read Dr Fung’s post of March 24 2016 (8-week blood sugar diet), it can be quickly assessed if any metabolic syndrome remains in a slim person. Divide one’s height in two and check if the waist circumference exceeds this value. As long as it does some metabolic syndrome remains… The height divided by two is hence “an individual measure for life”, a great reference! A page down is a diagram showing years of lifespan lost in proportion to waist exceeding half the height.

Shubaraj
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Shubaraj

Dear Dr. Fung, Greetings. I’ve been following your blogs and have been on LCHF for the last 5 months. I have two questions. 1. Elizabeth (from South Africa) mentions in her letter that she realized from your website that Metformin should not be taken on fasting days. I could not find the reference for that. Could you please explain why we Metformin should not be taken on fasting days? 2. Your analogy of the freezer in the basement makes a lot of sense. My question is about the HF part of LCHF; if I keep eating an HF diet, how… Read more »

Andrea Chang
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Andrea Chang

Not taking Metformin on fasting days make a lot of sense, actually. When your fasting your blood sugar levels may come down a little because your not eating so if you take Metformin, which lowers blood sugar, you levels may drop to the point where you can have a hypoglycemic episode.

Mary
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Mary

I started my English nurse training in the early 1970’s. Then most people with T2D were “diet controlled”. They cut out “starch” and not only improved their diabetes but invariably lost weight. Few seemed to require medication, generally when they refused to change their diet. Later it seemed people thought they could cheat by taking the medication and then not need to change their diet. So, as far as I remember, we are only going back to what was advised before.

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Dean Barnwell
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Dean Barnwell

Dr. Fung I’m all for your ideas and the LCHF diet but I don’t agree that your diabetes can be reversed and you no longer have it. I have been on the LCHF diet for four years now and it has helped my diabetes a lot I also have been on your fasting idea for several months and it has done wonders. I’m still insulin dependent and I always will be. I’ve lost 80 pounds in the last four years. I’m 56 and have been diagnosed since I was 26. It is not going to go away but I will… Read more »

sten bjorsell
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sten bjorsell

Hello Dean Barnwell ! If you fast sufficiently to reduce your waist circumference to half your height I agree, else not as any excess translates into metabolic syndrome = diabetes in most cases, heart disease in others as mine. What is your target (half the height) and what is your waist circumference? Look at the graph in Dr Fung’s post March 24 2016, about half a page down. If your waist is too large now, intermittent fasting as Fung describes it will resolve it in a few months or weeks, depending on frequency, length and adherence to water/broth only fasts.… Read more »

John Headon
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John Headon

Dean I started as T2 but on 6 jabs before trying intermittent fasting so that label is incorrect. Been a diabetic for over 20 years. Losing weight with Dr Fung’s intermittent fasting but Dean, how did you arrange your insulin? I jab background insulin twice a day 11 units at 13:00 and 22:45. I jab 6 units short acting insulin at 13:45, 5.5 units at 19:30. If sugars are high I will jab about 1 unit short acting insulin at 22:45 and/or max of 1 unit at 8:30. Two and a half units of short acting insulin have provoked a… Read more »

Anderson
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Anderson

@ Dean & John Thanks for your very realistic expression.I am T2 since 1994 & started LCHF before two years ago along with exercise, intermittent fasting & Metformin 1000 MG. I have lost 40 pounds and my HBA1C is in range of 6 & 6.6 but I have failed to lowered my FBG which is always between 7.6 to 8.6 & I agree with you that I will not be able to reverse my condition. We fall within minority group who just will not be able to reverse the condition no matter how hard you try.

Snyrse
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Snyrse

Solo, I am an RN with a long history of obesity. I have a family Md that I adore. Talking to her recently , I said I wish ” I could just stop eating” meaning not bother with food at all. I find eating makes me hungrier and I just wanted to get off the merry go round. I know a lot about nutrition and always felt LCHF was natural for me. i was very happy to learn that fasting would not trash my metabolism and have been IF for about three weeks with excellent results. I have not been… Read more »

jesse
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jesse

congrats to clive question about fasting vs caloric reduction, tell me if i have this correct i am on page 57 of “The Obesity Code” awesome!!! the difference between caloric reduction and fasting is that . . . in the first few days of fasting, whilst one is BECOMING keto-adapted – there IS NO DIFFERENCE. BUT… AFTER one become keto-adapted / and has become a fat burning machine – there is caloric PLENTITUDE ( NOT restriction) (assuming, of course, one has some stored fat calories to burn) Dr. Jason Fung: Yes, that’s it. By lowering insulin, you remove the inhibition… Read more »

jesse
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jesse

thx
congrats on the book,
i have two copies, and a third on the way, to share with folks
wonderful work, you are a blessing and a genius
thank you and megan, for all you do

Elaine-
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Elaine-

this is good news indeed!! but i was wondering, if i do alternate day fasting, is juice allowed? as in fresh juice? plus, i’m an ethical vegan and cannot be swayed into eating meat… so i know that a high fat diet is what i have to do, and i’m agreeable with that, as gourmet raw veganism is very high fat. but you mention fructose and often gourmet raw is high in fruit, is that ok? thank you for all you have done, when will your book be available?

Elena
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Elena

Use your glucometer to decide what is allowed for you. I think avocado, coconut oil, olives, walnuts are OK. However every”body” answers differently to foods.

Elaine-
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Elaine-

also, I can’t fast because i’m on tons of psychiatric medication for bipolar that i can’t get off of…
is there any way, without fasting? to lost weight and control insulin?

Mike
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Mike

Mr. Fung, I want to get your new book on intermittent Fasting! I struggle every morning with checking blood sugar and it always 130 range? Can you suggest anything on this! I have since October, lost 30 pounds! I watch what I eat? Frustrating??mike

Roger Bird
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Roger Bird

It is no surprise to me that the medical profession is dug-in and hunkered-down with regard to diabetes. I have known for 45 years that this is what they do whenever their beloved paradigms prove to be wrong and the income stream from patients and Big Pharma is threatened. This an old story. But, you know what? It still shocks me.

Thadius Didier
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Thadius Didier

Dr. Fung,

Thank you for all the information that you have put out there on this subject. I feel that you are truly a healer, and that when you realized that the “accepted knowledge” on this subject was wrong you followed the truth no matter where it led you. Thank you again for being honest with us, where so many have not been.

Iris
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Iris

Agree 100%, Dr Fung makes a lot of sense. Found willpower I couldn’t imagine on a cico diet.